CHARTER TOWNSHIP OF VIENNA
	PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
	OCTOBER 15, 2002
	Chairperson Curtis open the meeting at 6:00pm and led the Pledge of Allegiance.
Present:	Vernon Curtis, Scott Preseau, Ben Ranger, Gery Giltinan, Dale Frappier and Mary
	Johnson.
Absent:	Max Schweitzer, and Lee Garner.
Communications:	Chairperson Curtis read the notice to be published concerning the adoption of the
	Master Plan.
Minutes:	Motion by Preseau, seconded by Ranger to approve the minutes of September  23,
	2002 as presented. All ayes, motion carries.
	Motion by Curtis, seconded by Frappier to approve the minutes of September 26,
	2002 as presented. All ayes, motion carries.
New Business:	Item #1   Mike & Cindy Heit, 1012 W. Vienna Rd are requesting a Pond permit.
	Audience comments: None
	Board Comments:
	Preseau said at the last meeting it was decided that the Pond Committee should
	look at the pond site before construction begins, so he recommends approval
	contingent on approval from the Pond Committee.
	Ranger agreed and said the next pond request received will be inspected by the
	Pond Committee before it comes before the Board.
	Frappier asked if all the fill would all be used at the site and was told yes.
	Curtis asked Mr. Heit what he planned to do with all the dirt and what time frame he
	was looking at. Mr. Heit said the dirt will be used to landscape and fill in holes, and
	the project will be completed within one year.
	Motion by Preseau to approve the pond request contingent upon Pond Committee
	approval. Roll call vote. All ayes, motion carries.
	Item # 2    Preliminary Site Plan Approval for Centennial Oaks.
	Rob Weiderman, Flint Surveying, and Mr. Howard, owner were present.
	Chairperson Curtis explained to the audience he had met with Mike Mansfield and
	requested Elmwood not be opened into Centennial Oaks and Mr. Mansfield agreed.
	Several comments from the audience included:
	1. Lot between lots 36 & 69, widen those lots so a home could not be constructed
	there in the future.
	2. Sunset Dr. residents never has sewer problems until Ashtyn Estates hooked
	into their line, and are afraid they will have more problems with this new site.
	3. Sunset Dr. residents voted to have water line put in and they paid for it, but
	Elmwood residents voted no, so will Centennial Oaks have to pay the assessment
	also.
	4. Retention Pond in Ashtyn Estates is dangerous and needs to be taken care of.
	5. When new site plan will be available for inspection. This week at Township Hall.
	6. Timetable for completion. 12-18 months.
	7. Whether the streets will be private or be given to the County. The County will
	own them.
	Chairperson Curtis said Centennial Oaks will be on the agenda for the October
	28th meeting with the new site plan.
	Motion by Curtis, seconded by Ranger to approve the preliminary site plan with
	changes of close Elmwood extension, widen lots 36 & 69, construct green space
	in the area that was to have been a road, run all sewer north to Pine St.
	Roll call vote. All ayes, motion carries.
Committee Reports	The Pond committee inspected the Gardner pond and reported that Mr. Gardner
	has filled in the south side and it is looking like it can be completed, and his permit
	expires in January, 2003 so he will be in for a renewal.
	Lake Charles on Elms Rd was also inspected and it was very shallow with grasses
	growing in the bottom.
New Business:	Discussion on whether all plans should be reviewed by an engineering firm and if
	the engineer should attend the meetings to be available for questions.
	Rowe Engineering, Ken Wells, reviewed the plans for Lake Charles and should be
	present on the  October 28 meeting providing Mr. Emmendorfer is on the agenda.
	Chairperson Curtis will contact Mr. Wells and ask him to attend, and we will check
	with other townships to see what their requirements are.
	Meeting was adjourned at 7:33pm.
	Scott Preseau, Acting Secretary
	SP/mvj
	** Next Meeting will be October 28, 2002 at 6:00pm
	1. Final Site Plan Approval-Centennial Oaks