VIENNA TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION
	SEPTEMBER 9, 2002
	Chairperson Curtis called the meeting to order at 6:00pm, and led the Pledge of
	Allegiance.
Present:	Vernon Curtis, Ben Ranger, Gery Giltinan, Scott Preseau, Max Schweitzer, Lee
	Garner, Bob Palmer, and Mary Johnson.
Absent:	Dale Frappier.
Minutes:	Motion by Schweitzer, seconded by Preseau to approve the minutes of 8-26-02 as
	presented. All ayes, motion carries.
	Motion by Preseau, seconded by Ranger to approve the minutes of 9-5-02 as
	presented. All ayes, motion carries.
Additions/
Changes:	Add communications to # 8, Unfinished Business.
Petitions:	1. Set Public Hearing for Little Caesar's Pizza Rezoning.
	Bob Palmer explained that Little Caesar's wanted to purchase property across from
	their present location in the Clio Mall and build a new store. Little Caesar's needs a
	new location but likes the area and wants to stay.
	Motion by Garner, seconded by Ranger to set a Public Hearing for Little Caesar's
	for September 23, 2002 with the publish dates of September 4th and 11th.
	Roll call vote. All ayes, motion carries.
Reports of
Committees:	None
Unfinished
Business:	1. Gardner pond on Neff Rd.
	Nick Clark, 9205 Neff Rd. presented a copy of a "cease & desist" order from
	Genesee County Drain Commission dated July 23, 2001 to Mr. Gardner, and a copy
	of an undated agreement between Mr. Gardner and four other people agreeing to
	certain conditions of sand removal.
	Garner asked Mr. Gardner if he could give the Board a completion date for his pond.
	Mr. Gardner said no.
	Ranger said he has had the permit since May, 1989 and it still isn't complete.
	Audience Comments:
	1. Steve Heyink, 2101 Dodge Rd. asked if there were any monitoring  wells, aquafers,
	and if the project had regular inspections. Mr Gardner said there were no wells.
	2. Randy Taylor asked if the Board will check into the "cease & desist" order.
	Chairperson Curtis said he would check tomorrow.
	3. Nick Clark, 9205 Neff Rd said he went to the site with the Jodi Stiles, GCDC
	and she said it was a mining operation not a pond.
	Mr. Garner said he will not put in a monitoring well, it's too expensive so he'll leave
	it as it is.
	It was decided the Pond Committee will meet with Mr Gardner at the site so he can
	show them what he has completed.
	James Cox, 9092 Neff Rd. asked about the landfill next to Gardner and was told
	that he should speak to the Building Inspector since it was not a Planning Comm.
	issue.
	Curtis said that Mr Gardner had been before this Board before and nothing gets done
	and asked for a completion date. He also asked how much dirt had to be removed.
	Palmer said that it was not a pond, it was a mining operation.
	Nick Clark said he takes sand out of the north end and uses large trucks, both are
	contrary to the signed agreement.
	Mr. Gardner said he does use larger trucks than the agreement states.
	2. Lammy pond on Frances Rd.
	Mr. Lammy said he has finished the east side of the pond, but needs more fill on the
	south side. The project is more than half completed and will be approcximately 15
	acres. The project is graded but not yet seeded.
	Curtis asked for a completion date. Mr Lammy said that by June 1, 2003 the east
	and south sides will be seeded and graded.
	Preseau asked that both gentlemen come back before the Board with a plan in the
	spring.
	Ranger said to Mr Gardner that he had been to the site and it was not a pond, it was
	a excavation site, and he needed a completion date.
New Business:	A joint meeting has been set for September 19, 2002 at 5:30pm with the Township
	Board and the BDA to continue the review of the new Master Plan.
	Meeting was adjourned at 7:15pm.
	Lee Garner, Secretary
	LG/mvj
	***Special Joint Meeting  9-19-02  5:30pm
	Meeting 9-23-02  Public Hearing for Little Caesar's Rezone
	Final Site Plan, Lake Charles Estates