CHARTER TOWNSHIP OF VIENNA  
  PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES  
  11-Mar-02  
 
Chairperson Curtis opened the meeting at 7:30pm.  
 
Present: Vernon Curtis, James Schweitzer, Scott Preseau, Lee Garner, Ben Ranger, Gery  
Giltinan, Robert Palmer, and Mary Johnson.  
 
Absent: Dale Frappier  
 
Also Present: Approximately 50-60 residents and Board members.  
 
Minutes: Motion by Schweitzer, seconded by Preseau to approve the minutes of 2/20/02  
with corrections. All ayes. Motion carries.  
 
Communications Chairperson Curtis said that Vilican-Leman will be on the agenda for the next  
meeting on March 25, 2002.  
 
New Business:  
 
Item #1 Public Hearing, Special Land Use for New Covenant Free Methodist Church,  
V/L on Linden Rd. 18-09-552-014. Pastor Dale Woods, and designer Mike Ridley  
were present. Pastor Woods spoke to the Board and said that they had applied a  
few years ago but found they didn't have the necessary funds, but are ready now. He  
said the look and design of the church would fit with the beautiful homes in the area  
and they planned to develop area with lots of green spaces, ball diamond  
which the community would have access to also. The vast majority of the traffic  
would be Sunday mornings, and they feel that they meet or exceed Vienna Twps  
requirements and will be good neighbors. Mike Ridley then presented the plans  
showing a 4' berm behind homes on Linden Rd to act as a buffer, and a swale along  
Linden Rd to carry storm water to the retention basin. They will have lots of  
landscaping and will "dress up" the parking lot.  
 
Chairperson Curtis reminded the audience this was a Special Land Use application  
not a site plan, and opened the meeting for comments from the audience.  
 
Jack Tubbs thanked the Board for asking for comments from the audience and he  
supports the application.  
 
Mark Binelli, 13186 Linden Rd. is worried about his well and his loss of privacy.  
 
Bonnie Swanson, 13136 Linden Rd hopes the Church does go in and thinks they  
will be good neighbors.  
 
Bob Palmer said there is a serious water problem at the site but this plan will  
take care of that, the parking is adequate, water/sewer is available, so he is  
satisfied the site works.  
 
Chairperson Curtis closed discussion to the public and opened it to the Board.  
 
Scott Preseau asked about time for services other than Sunday morning.  
Motion by Preseau, seconded by Garner to approve the Special Land Use application
for New Covenant Church.  
Voting yes: Curtis, Garner, Schweitzer, Preseau, Ranger, and Giltinan  
Voting no: None  
Motion carries.  
Item #2 Site Plan Review for Fire Station. Greg Mason and Jim Sporer were present from  
CHMP, and Fire Chief Jim Bronson.  
Jim Sporer spoke about the structure saying that it will be a drive-thru exiting  
onto Vienna Rd. and will enter from the north facing south for easy egress. The  
landscaping will be similar to Vienna Township's probably more. Greg Mason gave  
an overall of the interior, approximately 12,000 sq ft with a 4500' basement.  
Chairperson Curtis opened discussion to the audience saying he would take no  
questions concerning cost or financing.  
David Wojahn, 12433 Webster Rd. questioned the placement next to propane  
storage.  
Ken Snyder, 4490 Joan Dr. asked if the Board knew the site used to be a dump.  
Nick Clark, 9205 Neff Rd questioned if the Board approved tonight is this a closed  
issue. He thinks we need a new station but not at this site.  
Phyllis Short, 14154 Tuscola Rd. asked if other sites were considered.  
Charles Howell, 12415 Neff Rd said the site is in a hole, hard to get up in winter  
Phil Harrison asked for a list of the engineers who evaluated the site concerning  
the propane tanks saying the site is not safe.  
Jack Tubbs asked why we would put Fire and EMS personnel in danger.  
Charles Howell, has the Sports complex site been considered.  
Terry Delecki said we need new station but disagrees with the cost.  
Chairperson Curtis closed discussion to the audience and opened to the Board.  
Curtis asked if any haz mat material will be stored at site. Chief Bronson said no.  
and that there are no State or Federal laws prohibit building next to propane storage.  
Greg Mason said there will be more information available at the April 1st meeting,  
but there are no rules, regulations, or laws regarding this or nothing would be build  
anywhere in area of storage tanks.  
Preseau asked about storm water issue. Bob Palmer said the site complied, but  
he wanted to see an emergency activated stoplight on Vienna Rd.  
Tony McKerchie said the State had signed off on the curb cuts and had addressed  
the issue of the light. He said that the April 1st Township Board meeting will  
address the $36 special assessment, and the Architect, Greg Mason will be there  
to show that cuts have been made to the plans and will answer all questions.  
Motion by Garner, seconded by Preseau to table this application until the April 8th  
meeting and the Board will do research concerning propane tanks.  
Voting yes: Curtis, Preseau, Garner, Schweitzer, Giltinan, and Ranger  
Voting no: None  
Motion carries.  
Item #3 Final site plan approval for Pheasant Run. Michael Tobin was present and gave an  
overall view of the project.  
Chairperson Curtis said he had all his approvals and called for a motion.  
Motion by Ranger, seconded by Schweitzer to approve the final site plan for  
Pheasant Run.  
Voting yes: Ranger, Giltinan, Preseau, Garner, Curtis, and Schweitzer.  
Voting no: None  
Motion carries.  
New Business: Time Change for Planning Commission meetings.  
Motion by Schweitzer, seconded by Preseau to change the Planning Commission  
meeting time to 6:00pm beginning June 1st, 2002.  
Voting yes: Curtis, Garner, Ranger, Preseau, Giltinan, and Schweitzer.  
Voting no: None  
Motion carries.  
Motion by Schweitzer, seconded by Preseau to adjourn at 9:00pm. All ayes.  
 
Lee Garner, Secretary  
 
LG:mvj  
              ** Next meeting will be March 25, 2002, 7:30pm