CHARTER TOWNSHIP OF VIENNA  
  PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES  
  NOVEMBER 25, 2002  
 
Chairperson Curtis opened the meeting at 6:00pm and led the Pledge of Allegiance.  
 
Present: Vernon Curtis, Gery Giltinan, Ben Ranger, Lee Garner, Scott Preseau, Max   
Schweitzer, Bob Palmer, and Mary Johnson.  
 
Absent: Dale Frappier.  
 
Minutes: Motion by Garner, seconded by Giltinan to approve the minutes of October 28, 02  
as presented. All ayes, motion carries.  
 
Additions/  
Changes: New Business: Report from Giltinan on other Townships use of Plan Reviewers.  
                         Discussion on procedures for businesses that begin work before  
                         coming before the Board.  
 
Unfinished Business: Wendy's.  
 
Petitions: 1.  Final Site Plan Approval for Centennial Oaks.  
 
Chairperson Curtis opened discussion to the audience.  There were no comments.  
Chairperson Curtis opened discussion to the Board.   
Comments included: They have made all the changes the Board has requested.  
                                 Question about surface water runoff.  
 
Motion by Preseau, seconded by Garner to grant final site plan approval to  
Centennial Oaks.  
Voting yes: Preseau, Giltinan, Schweitzer, Garner, Ranger, Curtis.  
Voting no: None  
Motion carries.  
 
2.  Site Plan Review for Simms Chevrolet.  
 
Dan Smith, C&H Complete Builders was present to present the project.  
Simms would like to convert a storage building into a used car sales office.  
 
Bob Palmer said they will need a two hour fire wall between the office and the storage
as well as one handicapped 10' parking space in front, and the lot needs to be hard  
surfaced. They are far enough back not to need landscaping.  
 
Motion by Ranger, seconded by Preseau to approve the Site Plan for Simms.  
Voting yes: Giltinan, Schweitzer, Ranger, Garner, Preseau, Curtis.  
Voting no: None, motion carries.  
 
 
 
 
Reports: None  
 
Unfinished    
Business: 1. Wendy's have placed their dumpster to the south of their building, next to M-57  
    when their site plan was approved with it in back, to the north.  
   
Bob Palmer said that he spoke to the contractor and he said it was moved for safety  
reasons.  
   
Much discussion on why they would do this without even discussing it with the  
Board or the Building Inspector. It was decided to have a committee, Giltinan,  
Ranger and Palmer meet with them to see what can be worked out.  
   
New Business: 1. Gery Giltinan gave a report on how other Township handled sending out plans  
    for review. He said no one had a set policy, it was handled at the discretion of the  
    Planning Commission.  
   
Some discussion, and it was decided to leave that decision to the Planning  
Commission on a case by case basis.  
   
2. Procedures for companies that construct, sell, begin activity before coming before  
    the Planning Commission.  
   
Bob Palmer explained that the business could be taken to Court and fined if the  
Judge agreed. Some discussion but no decision was reached.  
   
Motion by Schweitzer, seconded by Preseau to adjourn at 7:20pm. All ayes.  
   
     
Lee Garner, Secretary  
   
   
LG/mvj  
   
                                     ****Next Meeting, December 9th at 6:00pm  
                                          Business: Public Hearing-Master Plan  
                                                            DeKalita Ent. Special Land Use  
                                                                                   Site Plan Review