CHARTER TOWNSHIP OF VIENNA      
  PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES  
  JANUARY 12, 2004  
     
Chairperson Curtis opened the meeting at 6:00pm.  
Present: Vernon Curtis, James Schweitzer, Gery Giltinan, Kathy Ridley, John Krieger,  
Ben Ranger, Robert Palmer, and Mary Johnson.  
Absent: Doug Chilson.  
 
Minutes: Motion by Giltinan, seconded by Ranger to approve the minutes of 12-22-03 as  
presented. All ayes, motion carries. Max Schweitzer noted he was absent at the  
last meeting, and the minutes said he was present.  
Election of  
Officers: Motion by Schweitzer, seconded by Ridley to appoint Vernon Curtis to the position  
of Planning Commission Chairperson.  
Hearing no other nominations Chairperson Curtis called for the vote.  
All ayes, motion carries.  
Motion by Schweitzer, seconded by Giltinan to appoint Ben Ranger to the position  
of Vice-Chairperson.  
Hearing no other nominations Chairperson Curtis called for the vote. Voice vote.  
All ayes. Motion carries.  
Motion by Schweitzer to appoint Gery Giltinan to the position of Secretary.  
Hearing no other nominations Chairperson Curtis called for the vote.  
All ayes. Motion carries.  
Additions/ None.  
Changes:  
Communications  None.  
 
Reports: 1. Pond Committee. Chairperson Curtis appointed Ben Ranger, Max Schweitzer,  
and Gery Giltinan to the Pond Committee.  
 
Petitions: 1. Harry Phillpotts, Prepreliminary Site Plan Review.  
Dave Rowe, Inland Seas, spoke on the project. He said this project was granted a  
Special Land Use permit last month. He said the project has a 4 1/2 to 5 acre pond,  
public roads, asphalt and ditches, except on the cul-de-sac where the County will  
require curb & gutter. There is a hold up at the County level concerning hooking to the  
sewer system. They are working on this problem. All the lots will have private wells.  
Chairperson Curtis opened comments to the audience. No comments.  
Chairperson Curtis opened comments to the Board.  
Ranger asked if they would build spec houses, or sell the lots. Mr. Phillpotts said  
they will sell the lots but will build two houses, one for his father and himself.  
Palmer said these lots will have 150' frontage, and they will be quality homes. They  
will also have street lights, and if they can work out the sewer problem he is  
agreeable to the project.  
Curtis asked if the pond will have safety stations and Dave Rowe said he is working  
with the DEQ, they have jurisdiction.  
Curtis asked if there would be a sign at the road, and if the development had a name,  
and was told not yet.  
Ridley asked if they will have to have another plan, and Palmer explained that this  
is just the prepreliminary for the concept, but at the preliminary hearing they will  
have to have a name.  
Motion by Ranger, seconded by Schweitzer to approve the prepreliminary site plan.  
Roll call vote. All ayes, motion carries.  
2. Lucille Lonsway, Preliminary Site Plan Review. Kevin Lonsway spoke on the  
project. This is Phase 1 and he has approvals from MDOT, Water & Waste for  
soil erosion, after fee is paid, and for surface water in Phase 1.  
Chairperson Curtis opened comments to the audience. No comments.  
Chairperson Curtis opened comments to the Board.  
Curtis said that a dumpster will be required in C-2 zoning. Mr. Lonsway said he had  
no need of a dumpster. Curtis said that he pays only for residential garbage pickup,  
not any from a commercial business.  
Curtis asked if there will be a sign and Mr. Lonsway said yes, he already has the  
permit.  
Palmer said the Township Board will have to decide if Mr. Lonsway will not be  
required to have a dumpster. He also said that instead of a Preliminary hearing  
tonight it could be a final because he has all of his approvals.  
Ridley asked if he planned any landscaping and Mr. Lonsway said he plans to put  
maples in the back, and he has pines on the west. He also said the lighting will be  
under the eaves, and he is considering a security gate with coded entry.  
Motion by Ranger, seconded by Giltinan to approve the final site plan to include an  
enclosed dumpster, and the lighting to be under the eaves, not to the north or west.  
Roll call vote. All ayes, motion carries.  
Unfinished: None.  
   
New Business: 1. Set Public Hearing for Crystal Gardens Special Land Use on 1-26-04.  
Secretary Giltinan read the Notice of Public Hearing.  
Motion by Giltinan, seconded by Krieger to set a public hearing for Crystal Gardens  
Special Land Use for 1-26-04. All ayes, motion carries.      
Motion by Schweitzer, seconded by Ridley to adjourn at 6:54pm.  
 
Gery Giltinan, Secretary  
 
GG/mvj  
               **Next Meeting, January 26, 2004 at 6:00pm.  
                    Business: Public Hearing: Crystal Gardens, Sp. Land Use.